David Fincher’s feedback on Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker Ignite Heated Debate
David Fincher Recent comments on Todd Phillip’s joker have sparked some controversy on social media. He also said the film gave him flashbacks to work on the Fight Club. Fincher had a very difficult time getting the 1999 film to the studios he has spoken about several times. The film treated mental illness in ways most people were not used to seeing on the big screen, and it was too big a gamble for many studios. Fast forward to Joker 2019, and Warner Bros. was extremely excited to bring the film, which also addresses mental illness, to theaters despite public backlash.
David Fincher doesn’t think the Joker movie looked like a homerun on paper. “I don’t think anyone would have looked at this material and thought, ‘Yeah, let’s take it [Taxi Driver’s’] Travis Bickle and [The King of Comedy’s’] Rupert Pupkin and bring them together, then catch him betraying the insane and plod him out for a billion dollars, “Fincher said. In the director’s commentary on the portrayal of insanity, people argue about what exactly he meant. Fincher adds added: “Nobody would have thought they would get a huge hit with Joker if The Dark Knight hadn’t been as massive as he was.”
Some social media users believe that David Fincher is the way Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix treated mental illness in Joker. For people who have already had a problem with the film, Fincher’s comments seem crystal clear. But there are just as many who believe the director’s comments have been taken out of context. You can read what a person had to say on social media below.
“I think people are taking David Fincher’s quote out of context. It seems like he’s saying society’s betrayal of the mentally ill rather than the film’s betrayal.”
David Fincher seems more overwhelmed by the fact that Joker made over $ 1 billion at the box office than by the way he dealt with mental illness. His take on history is not unique. The studio knew the film was getting some success, but there wasn’t anyone who would break the $ 1 billion mark. And for Fincher, all of this applies close to home after doing Fight Club that saw nothing but fight from the studio. However, Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix took one of the most iconic comic book villains of all time to make their point. Fincher didn’t have that advantage when he adapted Chuck Palahniuk’s Fight Club for the big screen.
David Fincher says watching Joker gave him flashbacks of Fight Club’s early reaction. Regarding the early screenings of the 1999 film, Fincher said, “The general perception among studio types afterward was, ‘Our careers are over.’ The fact that we made this film in 1999 is still a miracle to me. “This is in sharp contrast to the way Warner Bros. Joker embraced 20 years later and how Fight Club is viewed today.
Joker has been criticized by many for his portrayal of mental illness since it was published last year. Some have said the film is full of misunderstandings, while others claim that it does not harm or help mental illness and that it is just plain entertainment. Whatever the case, David Fincher is quite surprised by all of the success surrounding Joker, despite the backlash from the public. Fincher recently directed Mank, which is now showing in select theaters. You can read the rest of the David Fincher interview on The Telegraph UK
I think people are taking David Fincher’s quote out of context. It seems like he’s saying society’s betrayal to the insane rather than the film’s betrayal: pic.twitter.com/U7tZsxNQf6
– “Stephanie” (@ GeekPride5) November 14, 2020
Yes, I am the first in line to shadow ‘Joker’, but as soon as I read the whole thing I stepped on the brakes. It’s not entirely clear, but the fact that Fincher is suggesting a hypothesis in a quote makes me think that it almost certainly doesn’t mean what everyone thinks they mean.
– Dee Riv (deegeeriv), November 14, 2020
David Fincher was actually the one who drove the taxi https://t.co/NRWJ0mbSRjpic.twitter.com/tj3XxbYq4v
– gwen (@phqntomthrd) November 14, 2020
David Fincher: Joker bad
– mya (@DUNENATION), November 14, 2020
What David Fincher REALLY said about Joker. pic.twitter.com/H94iZTRYY1
– Only Gob Awards (@FilmGob) November 14, 2020
You know, Fincher could have just said Joker was a shitty movie, like so many of us.
– Der Müde ‘Tude (@DerMudeTude) November 14, 2020
That David Fincher doesn’t like Joker proves that he has taste.
I mean, we probably already knew that, but still. pic.twitter.com/TWb0ND04gF
– Mathew Buck (@FB_BMB) November 14, 2020
David Fincher is right about Joker. YOU DO NOT MAKE A POLITICAL DECLARATION ABOUT THE INSTITUTIONAL POWERS AND MISLABEL THE SIDES IN PLAY! Joker says politics in America is left versus right when it’s center versus right. The foundation of the film is a mistake! pic.twitter.com/pJTytHQwAi
– SpecificityArchives (@SpecificityA) November 14, 2020
Don’t worry about what Fincher thinks of Joker, or break the culture off. I don’t care unless he talks about getting Mindhunter working again.
– Anghus (@AnghusH) November 14, 2020
As a seriously mentally ill woman, I hardly have to disagree with David Fincher at Joker.
– Y / N by Pietro Maximoff (@daaeleira), November 14, 2020
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